命運好好玩中~余皓然的言論 - 鳥
By Madame
at 2009-11-06T22:56
at 2009-11-06T22:56
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剛才敷面膜ing
亂轉電視時~剛好看到命運好好玩~
余皓然在講王中平的嗜好
酒...一堆~其中一個是養鳥
是九孔送給王中平養的~
說要讓鳥學唱歌之類的
因為她不喜歡王中平養
有一天鳥 飛走了
她其實心裡很高興
卻還要裝難過安慰王中平
突然想到前幾天~
不知道是哪位官員還是民間團體的志工說
"不要怪我們的孩子冷漠,大人對動物的漠視,是生命教育最壞的示範!"
孟子不也說~人皆有惻隱之心
難道惻隱之心是針對人only嗎?
※ 編輯: tzou09 來自: 219.84.6.100 (11/06 23:37)
亂轉電視時~剛好看到命運好好玩~
余皓然在講王中平的嗜好
酒...一堆~其中一個是養鳥
是九孔送給王中平養的~
說要讓鳥學唱歌之類的
因為她不喜歡王中平養
有一天鳥 飛走了
她其實心裡很高興
卻還要裝難過安慰王中平
突然想到前幾天~
不知道是哪位官員還是民間團體的志工說
"不要怪我們的孩子冷漠,大人對動物的漠視,是生命教育最壞的示範!"
孟子不也說~人皆有惻隱之心
難道惻隱之心是針對人only嗎?
※ 編輯: tzou09 來自: 219.84.6.100 (11/06 23:37)
推 bluewind0963:我想孟子沒養寵物ˊˋ 人阿(嘆 59.121.209.132 11/06 23:47
→ gravisbox:他沒什麼愛心 219.70.101.190 11/07 00:06
噓 covari:歹勢我不覺得這沒愛心 本來人就有討厭動物 114.42.171.176 11/07 00:41
→ covari:的權利 今天是家人硬要養 只能硬著頭皮接受 114.42.171.176 11/07 00:42
→ covari:但是這不表示原本討厭的人就一定要喜歡不可 114.42.171.176 11/07 00:42
推 freeforeve:但我推綠色那一行字 再怎麼討厭 尊重 114.46.143.146 11/07 00:53
→ freeforeve:並不代表可以用討厭當藉口踢掉 114.46.143.146 11/07 00:54
→ tzou09:C大~我整篇文章~有說誰沒愛心嗎? 219.84.6.100 11/07 01:01
→ tzou09:我只是可憐那隻鳥遇到不對的主人~ 219.84.6.100 11/07 01:03
→ tzou09:這是鳥版~我不能預設來鳥版的人都喜歡鳥嗎 219.84.6.100 11/07 01:04
→ gtr9915:不愛動物 你何必來這裡!! 114.41.77.123 11/07 01:10
→ tzou09:G大~我剛才也去看~他在鳥版發的都是轉錄多 219.84.6.100 11/07 01:11
推 lovele:我不懂噓的點在哪 114.38.66.24 11/07 01:11
→ covari:你就想家人突然說想養南非大蟑螂當寵物 114.42.171.176 11/07 01:15
→ covari:然後你反對 家人卻指著你罵說沒愛心 114.42.171.176 11/07 01:15
→ covari:鄰居也來指責你對生命教育做最壞的示範 114.42.171.176 11/07 01:16
推 Devilxxx:我是覺得 他要喜歡或討厭都是他的事 但是122.116.181.159 11/07 01:17
→ Devilxxx:在電視上那樣講 會不會教壞小朋友122.116.181.159 11/07 01:17
→ covari:教壞小朋友? 一直在電視上說動物好可愛 114.42.171.176 11/07 01:17
→ covari:讓小孩明明沒能力照顧卻硬要買才是教壞 114.42.171.176 11/07 01:18
→ covari:君不見棄養潮都是在電影過後? 114.42.171.176 11/07 01:19
推 pinkle25:我剛也聽到了~也很想po罵人 61.228.97.31 11/07 01:43
推 srewq:不 我決德說動物好可愛 家長明知道小孩也是 124.11.245.122 11/07 02:47
→ srewq:三分鐘熱度 還讓她養 才是最壞的示範 124.11.245.122 11/07 02:47
→ srewq:至於那藝人這樣說 他說的好像動物"放生"並不 124.11.245.122 11/07 02:48
→ srewq:是什麼大不了的事 這才是教壞吧 124.11.245.122 11/07 02:48
→ srewq:至於棄養潮嗎 君不見棄養的人除了小孩子外 124.11.245.122 11/07 02:51
→ srewq:還有一堆"懂事"的大人 和受良好教育的大學生 124.11.245.122 11/07 02:52
推 wendyjuju:c大舉例好爛 也亂噓一通 爛!!! 61.216.1.136 11/07 03:02
→ tzou09:C大~可以再看一次文章嗎~我有說余無愛心嗎 219.84.6.100 11/07 06:55
→ tzou09:我說的是對生命的尊重~如果你買一堆 219.84.6.100 11/07 06:56
→ marjan:所以對動物有愛心孩子就會不冷漠了??122.117.103.159 11/07 07:33
→ covari:根本從來不買動物來養的人 也是一種尊重 114.42.186.48 11/07 09:18
→ covari:井水不犯河水 這種人至少不會危害動物 114.42.186.48 11/07 09:18
→ covari:卻被你們掛上沒愛心牌子 好像多會虐寵一樣 114.42.186.48 11/07 09:19
→ covari:鳥如果是他放掉當然不妥 可是他什麼都沒做 114.42.186.48 11/07 09:20
→ covari:至於在電視上說不喜歡鳥跟不喜歡蟑螂是一樣 114.42.186.48 11/07 09:24
→ covari:的 只是前者會被批對生命不尊重教壞小孩? 114.42.186.48 11/07 09:24
→ covari:我反而覺得不問親人意見就直接抓鳥來養的 114.42.186.48 11/07 09:27
→ covari:不尊重家人也不尊重鳥 不能給鳥夠好的環境 114.42.186.48 11/07 09:28
→ covari:養動物本來就是要全家一起配合 114.42.186.48 11/07 09:29
推 FULLMOOM00:補血 61.228.202.177 11/07 09:32
推 louisyung03:推~ 沒人說誰沒愛心吧... 59.127.204.231 11/07 12:09
推 gravisbox:白癡 根本沒人扯到虐寵 115.43.181.112 11/07 13:44
→ gravisbox:而且對鳥沒什麼愛心 是事實 115.43.181.112 11/07 13:44
→ gravisbox:沒愛心不等於貶低這個人 115.43.181.112 11/07 13:44
→ gravisbox:寵物鳥不小心飛出去 他在外面的生存機率 115.43.181.112 11/07 13:46
→ gravisbox:是非常低的.他如果知道這一點還開心的話 115.43.181.112 11/07 13:46
→ gravisbox:那不就是沒愛心嗎? 115.43.181.112 11/07 13:47
→ gravisbox:尊重和冷漠是不同的 115.43.181.112 11/07 13:47
→ gravisbox:而且沒愛心的人也不代表會謔寵 115.43.181.112 11/07 13:48
→ gravisbox:虐寵的人多半是心理有問題 115.43.181.112 11/07 13:48
→ gravisbox:你少在那邊無限上綱 115.43.181.112 11/07 13:49
噓 covari:就跟你說本來就不喜歡的人被逼著養 怎麼可 114.42.186.48 11/07 14:13
→ covari:能會真的關心 那麼是誰逼著他養的才是關鍵 114.42.186.48 11/07 14:14
→ covari:塞給你一隻馬達加斯加蟑螂 你會因為蟑螂在 114.42.186.48 11/07 14:15
→ covari:路上容易被車壓死而擔心嗎? 114.42.186.48 11/07 14:16
→ covari:人能做的就只有不因為好惡而亂危害生命 114.42.186.48 11/07 14:20
→ covari:既然不是他把鳥放出去的 就不要因為個人 114.42.186.48 11/07 14:22
→ covari:情緒貼上沒愛心標籤 愛心這個字實在太模糊 114.42.186.48 11/07 14:23
→ covari:然後再來硬凹什麼沒愛心不等於貶低 114.42.186.48 11/07 14:23
→ covari:一群人指責你對蟑螂沒愛心你會怎麼想? 114.42.186.48 11/07 14:24
→ covari:然後再說"沒愛心不等於貶低啊 只是說你不尊 114.42.186.48 11/07 14:25
→ covari:重蟑螂沒有貶低你啊 你少在那邊無限上綱" 114.42.186.48 11/07 14:25
推 gravisbox:誰被逼著養啊 115.43.181.112 11/07 14:45
→ gravisbox:而且很靠悲的是 他們之間沒溝通 115.43.181.112 11/07 14:46
→ gravisbox:講的好像是我們要負責一樣 115.43.181.112 11/07 14:46
→ gravisbox:我不爽的點是他裝難過 115.43.181.112 11/07 14:47
→ gravisbox:鳥飛走了 廢話 當然不是他的責任 115.43.181.112 11/07 14:48
→ covari:沒溝通絕對是一開始想養的人的責任 114.42.186.48 11/07 14:48
→ gravisbox:不爽他偽善 115.43.181.112 11/07 14:48
→ gravisbox:雙方都是啊 115.43.181.112 11/07 14:49
→ covari:裝難過是因為他們是家人 所以懂得"體諒" 114.42.186.48 11/07 14:49
→ gravisbox:你是知道他們之間溝通的過程喔 115.43.181.112 11/07 14:49
→ covari:不知道過程有影響嗎? 114.42.186.48 11/07 14:50
→ covari:頭的是一開始想養的人啊 114.42.186.48 11/07 14:50
→ gravisbox:廢話 不知道過程而扯一堆 115.43.181.112 11/07 14:50
→ gravisbox:那不要跟八卦雜誌作文章一樣嗎 115.43.181.112 11/07 14:50
→ gravisbox:你自以為他們之間沒有溝通? 115.43.181.112 11/07 14:51
→ covari:不想讓家人養 這件事從頭到尾都沒錯啊 114.42.186.48 11/07 14:51
→ gravisbox:我沒有要談論對或錯的問題 115.43.181.112 11/07 14:52
→ gravisbox:我只有針對 鳥飛走了 他很開心 115.43.181.112 11/07 14:52
→ covari:你把體諒家人難過講成偽善... 114.42.186.48 11/07 14:52
→ gravisbox:這件事情 絕對沒有對或錯 115.43.181.112 11/07 14:52
→ covari:然後再把個人喜好加在別人身上 114.42.186.48 11/07 14:52
→ gravisbox:你少在那邊一直扯說 我曲解體諒 115.43.181.112 11/07 14:53
→ covari:fine 沒有絕對對或錯 114.42.186.48 11/07 14:53
→ gravisbox:你先搞清楚他們有沒有溝通再說 115.43.181.112 11/07 14:53
→ covari:有溝通又如何? 討厭蟑螂的還是討厭啊 114.42.186.48 11/07 14:54
→ gravisbox:而且不爽的點 你永遠都只換把他轉移到 115.43.181.112 11/07 14:54
→ gravisbox:他們之間的問題 115.43.181.112 11/07 14:54
→ gravisbox:我針對的只有 鳥飛走 他開心 115.43.181.112 11/07 14:54
→ covari:你本來就曲解體諒家人了 114.42.186.48 11/07 14:54
→ gravisbox:那你不要只有結論 115.43.181.112 11/07 14:55
→ covari:你都說 他開心沒有對或錯了 -_________- 114.42.186.48 11/07 14:55
→ gravisbox:OK 115.43.181.112 11/07 14:56
→ gravisbox:鳥飛走 他開心 這件事情沒有對或錯 115.43.181.112 11/07 14:56
→ gravisbox:所以我說他 沒愛心 115.43.181.112 11/07 14:56
→ covari:既然沒有對或錯 幹嘛還要批評他人喜好 114.42.186.48 11/07 14:56
→ gravisbox:沒愛心 是對或錯的問題嗎>? 115.43.181.112 11/07 14:56
→ gravisbox:沒愛心 能證明他對或錯嗎? 115.43.181.112 11/07 14:56
→ gravisbox:我從頭到尾 就不是要說 他是錯的 115.43.181.112 11/07 14:56
→ covari:沒愛心三個字真好用 還可以硬凹回沒有貶義 114.42.186.48 11/07 14:57
→ gravisbox:所以我才說 沒愛心=貶低他 115.43.181.112 11/07 14:57
→ gravisbox:沒愛心 不等於錯 115.43.181.112 11/07 14:57
→ gravisbox:我沒硬ㄠ回 我早在前幾句就說了 115.43.181.112 11/07 14:58
→ gravisbox:你自己沒看清楚 115.43.181.112 11/07 14:58
→ covari:good 所以板上一堆恨不得貓和老鼠去死沒錯 114.42.186.48 11/07 14:59
→ covari:但是還是要說他們沒愛心 反正沒愛心沒錯 114.42.186.48 11/07 14:59
→ gravisbox:你在無限上綱啊 那是情緒發洩 115.43.181.112 11/07 14:59
→ gravisbox:白癡... 115.43.181.112 11/07 14:59
→ covari:這不對啊 愛心是用在自己"愛"的生物 114.42.186.48 11/07 15:00
→ gravisbox:如果你不能針對這個議題發表 115.43.181.112 11/07 15:00
→ covari:鳥飛走了更是情緒發洩啊 114.42.186.48 11/07 15:00
→ gravisbox:那你去戰那些人啊 115.43.181.112 11/07 15:00
→ covari:本來自己就討厭的東西飛走了 114.42.186.48 11/07 15:00
→ gravisbox:我從來要說的 只對他沒愛心這件事情 115.43.181.112 11/07 15:00
→ gravisbox:廢話 當然會開心 115.43.181.112 11/07 15:00
→ gravisbox:這是人之常情 廢話 115.43.181.112 11/07 15:01
→ covari:good 你 沒 愛 心 114.42.186.48 11/07 15:01
→ covari:人之常情 114.42.186.48 11/07 15:01
→ gravisbox:白癡 115.43.181.112 11/07 15:01
→ gravisbox:幹XX的 115.43.181.112 11/07 15:01
→ gravisbox:只會在那邊無限扯出結論 115.43.181.112 11/07 15:02
→ gravisbox:你能分辨出沒愛心不等於貶低個人 115.43.181.112 11/07 15:02
→ gravisbox:再來說吧 115.43.181.112 11/07 15:02
→ gravisbox:白癡 最好我沒愛心 哪裡飛來的結論 115.43.181.112 11/07 15:02
→ covari:我沒有貶低你 只是說你對於他人沒愛心 114.42.186.48 11/07 15:03
→ gravisbox:幹xx 115.43.181.112 11/07 15:03
→ gravisbox:ok 那你說出我對他人沒愛心的過程 115.43.181.112 11/07 15:03
→ covari:我沒有貶低你 只是說你對於非我族群沒愛心 114.42.186.48 11/07 15:03
→ gravisbox:我說了這些言論 對余沒愛心 115.43.181.112 11/07 15:04
→ covari:硬逼別人在討厭的東西離開的時候不能開心 114.42.186.48 11/07 15:04
→ gravisbox:所以余 今天在外面 會有什麼生命損失? 115.43.181.112 11/07 15:04
→ covari:硬逼別人在親人難過的時候不能偽善 114.42.186.48 11/07 15:04
→ gravisbox:我從沒逼他不能開心 115.43.181.112 11/07 15:04
→ gravisbox:你老師覺得大家都要逼他喜歡 115.43.181.112 11/07 15:05
→ gravisbox:你老是 115.43.181.112 11/07 15:05
→ gravisbox:誰逼他喜歡 115.43.181.112 11/07 15:05
→ covari:沒錯 所以你也沒損失 不要粗話出口 114.42.186.48 11/07 15:05
→ gravisbox:幹xx的 我邊談論這件事情 邊發洩情緒 115.43.181.112 11/07 15:05
→ gravisbox:ok吧 115.43.181.112 11/07 15:05
→ gravisbox:我的價值觀中 沒錯 他是沒愛心啊 115.43.181.112 11/07 15:06
→ gravisbox:但他是沒錯啊 115.43.181.112 11/07 15:06
推 gravisbox:sor 我沒有打清楚 115.43.181.112 11/07 15:08
→ gravisbox:我說的沒愛心不等於貶低個人 115.43.181.112 11/07 15:09
→ gravisbox:是指 不貶低他在其他事情的成就 115.43.181.112 11/07 15:10
→ gravisbox:但我們通常會把貶低道德看得很嚴重 115.43.181.112 11/07 15:10
→ gravisbox:好像貶低他的道德 他這個人就被全盤否定 115.43.181.112 11/07 15:11
→ covari:所以這三個字在用的時候才要特別謹慎 114.42.186.48 11/07 15:14
→ covari:這三個字也可以毀了一個人 即使他沒做錯 114.42.186.48 11/07 15:16
推 gravisbox:不過鳥板本來就會希望鳥寶過的更棒 115.43.181.112 11/07 15:16
→ gravisbox:如果你希望在這談論你剛說的那些 115.43.181.112 11/07 15:16
→ gravisbox:我建議你去什麼社會學版= = 115.43.181.112 11/07 15:16
→ gravisbox:如果你在這裡說這種話沒被噓 115.43.181.112 11/07 15:17
→ gravisbox:那這裡也沒有待的必要= = 115.43.181.112 11/07 15:17
推 LoveNJ123:我覺得就像是自己的孩子不見了220.140.105.157 11/07 16:17
→ LoveNJ123:卻有人在你旁邊說活該 那種感覺很不好220.140.105.157 11/07 16:18
→ LoveNJ123:就不論對動物有沒有愛心吧220.140.105.157 11/07 16:19
推 pmtinameow:就算不喜歡那仍是個生命140.112.216.195 11/07 16:37
推 hsiaohy:推樓上 生命並不會因為你不愛他而低賤 218.166.149.23 11/07 19:51
※ 編輯: tzou09 來自: 219.84.6.100 (11/08 00:23) 推 huskyching:結論:還好我室友沒有不准我養飼料蟑螂 61.230.12.142 11/08 11:30
→ huskyching:我室友真是個好人阿 61.230.12.142 11/08 11:30
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