遺失五年的貓咪找到了!但心裡頭五味雜陳 - 貓
By Agatha
at 2021-04-21T10:20
at 2021-04-21T10:20
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請容我再開一串討論串
上一串內容太多了 手機的閱讀軟體有點負荷不了 編輯修改上有點困難
加上內文開頭負面情緒的渲染 影響到新加入的板友 造成意見的不客觀
後續的更新就在這篇文章了!
原本想等見完肚肚再發新串的 絕對不是手動至底...
推 cccgy: 真心不認為肚肚在這位妹妹家中能好好終老,望原po三思。04/20 21:32
推 Dontlookatme: 推carry大,醫生的話看了生氣!因為通常很親人的貓都04/20 21:36
→ Dontlookatme: 會先掃晶片的!醫生也會建議很常打架受傷的貓不要放04/20 21:36
→ Dontlookatme: 養才對!04/20 21:36
過了一夜看下來 真的覺得醫生有點瞎 竟然沒有先幫掃晶片 至於勸放養與否個人覺得跟醫生可能沒有關係
第一時間應該會認為 僅僅只是帶野貓來就醫
推 cccgy: 同推carry大,這醫生根本沒醫德,想去Google給一星評價04/20 21:38
副本開太大了 我招架不住... 推 loopuntil: 更離譜了,就醫的時候醫師難道不會先掃晶片核對資料嗎04/20 21:41
→ loopuntil: ?如果有做這個動作當下就可以通知你了04/20 21:41
→ loopuntil: 在那邊的五年有四年放任貓在外面打架受傷,醫師一句話04/20 21:46
→ loopuntil: 都沒勸?他當時只要一個掃晶片的動作就可以讓貓回家了04/20 21:46
→ loopuntil: 合理懷疑醫師早就知情了,所以當然幫妹妹講話04/20 21:47
醫生的這樣的專業素養真的待考量 推 Dontlookatme: 其實我也撿過路邊親人的流浪貓,04/20 21:58
→ Dontlookatme: 就在路邊臉圓圓肥肥的,04/20 21:58
→ Dontlookatme: 而且我還可以嬰兒抱他!04/20 21:58
→ Dontlookatme: 有項圈但是破破爛爛, 04/20 21:58
→ Dontlookatme: 我先去看醫生掃晶片安排結紮, 04/20 21:58
→ Dontlookatme: 因為沒剪耳。 04/20 21:58
→ Dontlookatme: 帶去醫院沒晶片, 04/20 21:58
→ Dontlookatme: 我也不確定有沒有結紮過, 04/20 21:58
→ Dontlookatme: 所以醫生剃了肚子的毛發現有傷疤, 04/20 21:58
→ Dontlookatme: 就說這個紮過了! 04/20 21:58
→ Dontlookatme: 帶回家兩三天, 04/20 21:58
→ Dontlookatme: 去了撿到他的巷子問了路人有沒有人的貓走失, 04/20 21:58
→ Dontlookatme: 鄰居說有,對方還報警了! 04/20 21:58
→ Dontlookatme: 我就趕快把貓還回去了! 04/20 21:58
→ Dontlookatme: 這才是撿到親人浪貓的SOP吧! 04/20 21:58
→ Dontlookatme: 沒人不第一時間掃晶片的, 04/20 21:58
→ Dontlookatme: 除非帶去的人直接說這就是浪貓! 04/20 21:58
→ Dontlookatme: 附上當事貓照片 04/20 21:59
→ Dontlookatme: 但我覺得原po沒把握帶回家了, 04/20 22:09
→ Dontlookatme: 覺得如果當初馬上掃晶片歸還就好, 04/20 22:09
→ Dontlookatme: 不甘心的心情吧! 04/20 22:09
→ Dontlookatme: 講太多如果也只是枉然....... 04/20 22:09
→ Dontlookatme: 不管怎樣至少讓阿嬤看看也好 04/20 22:09
你們醫生好棒 在做事情上會故頭故尾! ※ 編輯: flame2yayaya (101.12.41.101 臺灣), 04/20/2021 22:14:09
→ DamnKobe: 告她 這根本沒在顧吧 04/20 22:18
→ frobo: 同意carry大說法,門窗防護網路很多心得分享,暫時性的關籠 04/20 22:26
→ frobo: (親人貓說不定還用不到)也不是問題,主要還是看原po自己 04/20 22:26
→ frobo: 有沒有意願想養吧.....看下來覺得你是很溫柔的人,處處為對 04/20 22:26
→ frobo: 方想,但總覺得替對方想太多,甚至為她辯護。不少貓貓因為 04/20 22:26
→ frobo: 各種原因在年紀更大時被迫轉換家庭後還是過得很好,從放養 04/20 22:26
→ frobo: 四年、道德角度來看,都不覺得該讓對方繼續養 04/20 22:26
好的 我會列入考慮 → DamnKobe: 還感謝個屁 她當下帶去掃晶片就什麼事也沒有了 明明就別 04/20 22:29
→ DamnKobe: 有居心才搞出這一步 04/20 22:29
第一時間不要鬼遮眼就好嘛... → narolyn: 貓過的好不好健不健康開不開心才是重點吧?貓是一條生命 04/20 22:44
→ narolyn: ,並不是財產 04/20 22:44
是的,過不去的永遠是人自己! 推 reino1861: 只怕貓在對方手裡會不會搞像NGO那種奧步 說轉手給第三 04/20 22:47
→ reino1861: 者養了 那樣就算原PO決定貓要回來自己這邊 要開吉 也會 04/20 22:47
→ reino1861: 落得沒東西可歸還的處境QQ 04/20 22:47
→ narolyn: 沒緣分了硬接回來沒意義,只因為晶片的名字是你,但對貓 04/20 22:51
→ narolyn: 貓而言主人早已經不是你 04/20 22:51
對貓來講是這樣沒錯 → DamnKobe: shelter一堆老貓 年紀大不代表沒辦法轉換家庭 04/20 22:51
推 cccgy: 就是質疑拾獲者的照顧方式,才建議原po帶回肚肚最能保障 04/20 22:52
→ cccgy: 晚年照顧。難道樓上n大認為在會打架受傷的情況下長期放養 04/20 22:52
→ cccgy: 是對貓來說最健康的飼養方式嗎? 04/20 22:52
→ DamnKobe: 而且我看不出來放養整天打架進醫院的是健康到哪 04/20 22:52
近一年都養家裡 就客觀立場 屏除私德與對我造成的傷害
雖然不到頂尖 但可以說是及格邊緣的飼主
推 duduhao: 我只能說,您完全有權利把貓要回來,這點無庸置疑!醫生 04/20 22:52
→ duduhao: 很偏頗讓人生氣!他的話也不是醫療方面的建議沒參考價值 04/20 22:52
→ duduhao: !現在就是好好想想要不要讓對方養吧!真覺得這醫生和對 04/20 22:53
→ duduhao: 方都很過份!明明有晶片就是您的貓啊!護航個屁啊! 04/20 22:53
您太生氣了 息怒息怒 每個人著眼點本來就不一樣
目前個人進行的每一步驟都是以真正主人的身分在確定妹妹對貓咪的合適與否
除了個人私怨以外 並沒有觀察到有太大的毛病
等家訪後會再向各位報告
推 cccgy: 今天貓咪的確不是財產是家人,但肚肚跟樓上n大無關,你自 04/20 22:54
→ cccgy: 己如果失去家人不在乎是你的事,不用對原po說什麼沒緣分 04/20 22:54
→ cccgy: 這種風涼話 04/20 22:54
謝謝你為我發聲 → duduhao: 希望您不要被醫生的話影響而覺得自責或理虧!那是他的金 04/20 22:56
→ duduhao: 主他當然幫說話啊!而且第一時間沒掃晶片真的很怪!難道 04/20 22:56
→ duduhao: 一開始都沒想到要結紮嗎? 04/20 22:56
→ duduhao: 推damnkobe大的每一句 04/20 22:57
→ DamnKobe: 我住的州撿到流浪動物沒帶到shelter就是違法了 04/20 22:58
→ DamnKobe: 第一:真的愛貓撿到看起來不像流浪貓的 沒先想到主人可 04/20 22:59
→ DamnKobe: 能在找? 04/20 22:59
→ DamnKobe: 第二:真的愛貓忍心放養然後每次看到貓傷痕累累? 04/20 22:59
→ sabear: 19y撿到 24y登門拜訪 之前都是放養 到去年才正式納編 04/20 23:01
→ sabear: 這位妹妹之前是在外地念書 家人也無力多照顧 所以放養? 04/20 23:02
有可能喔 這個我會再留意 昨天走經過有稍微觀察他們家一樓周遭
我這裡有的線索一跟四樓是他們家的(是否整層公寓都是他們的不知道)
一樓類似在做資源回收業務
肚肚也可能就是看他們大門常開 就順勢住下來了
推 duduhao: 原po真的愛貓希望貓貓好,就真的沒緣分吧!唉......但還 04/20 23:03
→ duduhao: 是覺得醫生很機車! 04/20 23:03
→ duduhao: 拍拍原po 04/20 23:04
雖然很不想開醫生副本 但是討論串看下來醫生真的是... 明明就懂真正的倫理與步驟 為什麼不提醒呢!!
推 cccgy: 是倒霉遇到惡意侵佔者,不是沒緣分吧!爬文可以看得出來 04/20 23:05
→ cccgy: 原po當年有一直在努力找貓,並不是遺失的算了的態度,說 04/20 23:05
→ cccgy: 是因為沒緣分,對原po來說太殘忍了 04/20 23:05
謝謝你 → duduhao: 知道原po不會告對方,是善良的人,只是這個過程和結局很 04/20 23:08
→ duduhao: 難讓人接受而已! 04/20 23:08
→ duduhao: C大您誤會我的意思了!我的意思是經過了這五年,原po自己 04/20 23:12
→ duduhao: 帶回來養也要考慮很多事情,知道原po一直記掛肚肚,但是 04/20 23:12
→ duduhao: 以目前的狀況原po是傾向讓對方養的!所以只能怪對方當初 04/20 23:12
→ duduhao: 沒有馬上掃晶片錯過了歸還的時機!等於那五年,甚至之後 04/20 23:12
→ duduhao: 的時間都像是被偷走的! 04/20 23:12
→ duduhao: 我的意思是這樣啦!不要誤會我QQ 04/20 23:12
推 rootshaw18: 常常看醫生就表示沒有照顧很好吧.... 04/20 23:12
至少願意處理與面對 而不是放著自生自滅 → duduhao: 您看我之前的推文,我也是氣噗噗的!鼻要誤會我QAQ 04/20 23:13
推 cccgy: du大我明白你的立場,也知道原po很善良,但真的很擔心貓 04/20 23:18
→ cccgy: 能否得到妥善的照顧,至少就侵佔者過去五年的照顧方式來 04/20 23:18
→ cccgy: 說,我相信是大部分板友都無法贊同的,不希望原po輕易答 04/20 23:18
→ cccgy: 應轉讓後,肚肚發生任何遺憾都再也無能為力。 04/20 23:18
→ cccgy: 特別是看過NGO事件的悲劇 。zz 04/20 23:19
有了解了 推 jellydepp: 不知道我有沒有理解錯,看起來原po似乎更傾向給妹妹養 04/20 23:27
→ jellydepp: ,但因為感受不佳而糾結? 04/20 23:27
理解正確!! 推 duduhao: 醫生的態度讓我覺得原po很可憐...... 04/20 23:31
→ duduhao: J大,還有沒掃晶片的無言和無奈吧!尤其發現那麼常帶去醫 04/20 23:34
→ duduhao: 院竟然一次都沒掃晶片,加上醫生的偏頗,讓人覺得百口莫 04/20 23:34
→ duduhao: 辯 04/20 23:34
胳臂向內彎 人之常情 如果他看到我反而搧風點火 這樣我覺得不是很恰當
推 sherit: 「沒緣份」是拿來安慰自己,在已經盡力但因為主導權不在自 04/20 23:40
→ sherit: 己手上的時候。討厭常有人拿這三個字來叫人放手,還沒到最 04/20 23:40
→ sherit: 後一刻哪裡就沒有緣份了,明明就是對方不適當的作為影響了 04/20 23:40
→ sherit: 跟貓的緣份,而不是命運就該如此,他人到底有什麼立場用這 04/20 23:40
→ sherit: 三個字叫人放手? 04/20 23:40
大家觀點不一樣 謝謝你為我發聲 → duduhao: 對不起我說錯話了...... 04/20 23:43
→ duduhao: 因為原po傾向讓對方繼續養我才說的,很抱歉讓部分人覺得 04/20 23:45
→ duduhao: 不開心! 04/20 23:45
→ duduhao: 真的很抱歉,以後會小心用字遣詞!小心使用這三個字,對 04/20 23:46
→ duduhao: 不起! 04/20 23:46
→ duduhao: 我前面的推文也對於有人勸原po放手,說沒緣分而生氣!但 04/20 23:49
→ duduhao: 是看了原po的回覆,原po有他自己的顧慮,所以才說那三個 04/20 23:49
→ duduhao: 字的! 04/20 23:49
沒關係 你們都是來幫忙的 我沒有理由去遷怒各位 其實我對妹妹都這種態度了 各位應該更放膽地暢所欲言
大家的論點都是根據自己的經驗有所闡述我看得出來
如果單只是無謂的謾罵 我會直接忽視 沒有這麼容易影響到我
推 sherit: 我不是說樓上d大,我說的是另一個人唷 04/20 23:59
推 lovet13: 那醫生超奇怪的欸明明看晶片你才是原主一直幫別人說話, 04/21 00:42
→ lovet13: 怎不懷疑是妹妹偷貓?這醫生早就知情了吧 04/21 00:43
不清楚耶 沒有餘力管到醫生那邊 今天見面我會再問問妹妹 用 偷 這個字眼太強烈了我還是相信只是單純看肚肚太可愛撿去養
推 iownthelight: 關於放養我想風向還蠻一致的,倒是想講講對方是否不 04/21 01:50
→ iownthelight: 那麼在乎肚肚離開他呢?真在乎的話,就會像原po一樣 04/21 01:50
→ iownthelight: 養在家裡,但對方花了四年才做到,然後又過一年才要 04/21 01:50
→ iownthelight: 打晶片,也就是期間對方都沒有思考過「肚肚是否會走 04/21 01:50
→ iownthelight: 失」並對此預防。 04/21 01:50
→ iownthelight: 當然最終問題還是在原po是否有心理準備接貓回家,不 04/21 01:50
→ iownthelight: 管你的意願是什麼,我覺得都是站得住立場的! 04/21 01:50
好的 這點我會再構思 → carry200015: 另外提醒原po,若今天家訪,不管有任何原因或你自身 04/21 04:41
→ carry200015: 意願,突然覺得你應該要把貓帶回家,請立馬報警在警 04/21 04:41
→ carry200015: 察陪同下將貓在今日馬上帶走,切勿心軟給對方寬限幾 04/21 04:41
→ carry200015: 天,避免貓被轉移或各種藉口貓跑掉、藏貓之類的舉動 04/21 04:41
→ carry200015: 不想還貓,到時候就算你告他,他賠你幾千塊,但你卻 04/21 04:41
→ carry200015: 真的連貓都再也找不到看不到,至於警察陪同,是以避 04/21 04:41
→ carry200015: 免他反咬你一口,說你去他家搶貓的保衛動作,加上貓 04/21 04:41
→ carry200015: 晶片是你的,理都在你身上,千萬不要被情緒勒索,警 04/21 04:41
→ carry200015: 察如果說人家養那麼久之類的鬼話,你就直接說晶片是 04/21 04:41
→ carry200015: 我的,我也有尋貓公告,他是侵佔是犯法,千萬不能心 04/21 04:41
→ carry200015: 軟妥協,不要再讓之前板上的悲劇發生。 04/21 04:41
→ carry200015: 另外關於緣分說這件事,真的要解讀的話, 04/21 04:55
→ carry200015: 那個人撿去這麼久都不掃晶片,最近才想到要掃, 04/21 04:55
→ carry200015: 然後想要轉移晶片,也是給原po找到貓,讓貓可以再次 04/21 04:55
→ carry200015: 回到他身邊,讓貓後半輩子可以再重新回到陪伴他長大 04/21 04:55
→ carry200015: 的主人身邊,這不也是一個緣份一個機會嗎?至於結果 04/21 04:55
→ carry200015: 就是在原po身上,他也有自身的考量,只是如果貓回到 04/21 04:55
→ carry200015: 原po身邊的話,切記防護措施要做好,讓他安全無憂的 04/21 04:55
→ carry200015: 度過後半輩子。 04/21 04:55
謝謝 受用了 推 cccgy: 推ca大,如果原po不清楚NGO事件可參考本板這篇文章 04/21 05:53
已讀 推 PCL1515: 醫生也這樣我會直接提告,看法院要不要去跟醫生調病例囉 04/21 08:32
→ PCL1515: ,要得到要不到都行,這種醫生就是鄉愿 04/21 08:32
推 PCL1515: 還有什麼19歲不成熟的說法,拜託現在的人說到權利年齡都 04/21 08:35
→ PCL1515: 要下修,可是講到義務或責任就變成不成熟小孩了喔,告就 04/21 08:35
→ PCL1515: 對了 04/21 08:35
我整理整理 推 pigu0315: 其實都是人的問題,貓何其無辜,建議以對貓最好的方式 04/21 09:28
→ pigu0315: 來處理,不被情緒左右,問題應該就有解答了 04/21 09:28
沒錯 現在就像是爭取小孩監護權一樣 假若我跟妹妹吵起來 受害最深的也就是肚肚
※ 編輯: flame2yayaya (101.12.41.101 臺灣), 04/21/2021 09:47:26
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