魚藥禁賣 降低養魚的意志.. - 魚

By Ivy
at 2011-04-20T17:32
at 2011-04-20T17:32
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恩...其實我覺得大家的立意都是好的 只是討論出了分歧 擦出火光XD
其實從法律方面切入 還蠻能釐清問題點的
我就這次禁藥的行政命令
只就大家都聽過的"比例原則"討論一下(我不是公法組的 也做不了高深的分析..)
不想看廢話的朋友 直接按end 有本篇廢言的白話文
=
在法律探討的(廣義)比例原則可以區分三個層次思考
第一層次是"適當性" 就是說這個方法可以達到目的
於本案沒有什麼問題(所有的魚藥都買不到了 當然無從造成環境汙染)
第二層次是"必要性" 就是說這個手段是最小侵害的 別無其他更好的辦法
我覺得政府這次的決策 在這裡的問題比較大
白話就是 沒必要禁掉全部的魚藥吧!
畢竟並非所有魚藥造成的生態影響都需要政府介入
有些毒性較弱 容易代謝等等的魚藥 卻被大刀闊斧的一次禁掉了
少了評估哪些藥該禁 哪些藥不該禁的流程
這對人民無異造成非必要的侵害
在事前全面禁止 在事後又部分開放
不知道是因為本來這些藥就不該禁 還是放寬汙染定義的標準
不論何者都有可議之處
可是這基本上是行政裁量權範圍 也沒什麼違法
只是做的不夠好而已 頂多以選票反映XD
第三層次是"衡平性" 就是比大小啦 受侵害的部分和保障的部分誰大
這部分也沒什麼問題 白話來講就是 愛地球 > 養魚快樂+廠商利益
==
w大或許因為少考慮了必要性的層次
更可能因為超級愛地球所以認為不論魚藥影響程度 禁掉所有魚藥是必要的
討論就該理性、尊重啊 不要彼此互扣帽子 這樣任誰都會不快的
如果本篇有什麼謬誤 請多包涵指教
廢言結論:行政命令違反比例原則
政府要嘛就是因為覺得魚藥汙染太嚴重 所以先禁了再說 以後慢慢開放
要嘛就是懶得做細項評估 一次禁 等有人嚴重抗議再說
個人偏向後者 你覺得咧?
--
其實從法律方面切入 還蠻能釐清問題點的
我就這次禁藥的行政命令
只就大家都聽過的"比例原則"討論一下(我不是公法組的 也做不了高深的分析..)
不想看廢話的朋友 直接按end 有本篇廢言的白話文
=
在法律探討的(廣義)比例原則可以區分三個層次思考
第一層次是"適當性" 就是說這個方法可以達到目的
於本案沒有什麼問題(所有的魚藥都買不到了 當然無從造成環境汙染)
第二層次是"必要性" 就是說這個手段是最小侵害的 別無其他更好的辦法
我覺得政府這次的決策 在這裡的問題比較大
白話就是 沒必要禁掉全部的魚藥吧!
畢竟並非所有魚藥造成的生態影響都需要政府介入
有些毒性較弱 容易代謝等等的魚藥 卻被大刀闊斧的一次禁掉了
少了評估哪些藥該禁 哪些藥不該禁的流程
這對人民無異造成非必要的侵害
在事前全面禁止 在事後又部分開放
不知道是因為本來這些藥就不該禁 還是放寬汙染定義的標準
不論何者都有可議之處
可是這基本上是行政裁量權範圍 也沒什麼違法
只是做的不夠好而已 頂多以選票反映XD
第三層次是"衡平性" 就是比大小啦 受侵害的部分和保障的部分誰大
這部分也沒什麼問題 白話來講就是 愛地球 > 養魚快樂+廠商利益
==
w大或許因為少考慮了必要性的層次
更可能因為超級愛地球所以認為不論魚藥影響程度 禁掉所有魚藥是必要的
討論就該理性、尊重啊 不要彼此互扣帽子 這樣任誰都會不快的
如果本篇有什麼謬誤 請多包涵指教
廢言結論:行政命令違反比例原則
政府要嘛就是因為覺得魚藥汙染太嚴重 所以先禁了再說 以後慢慢開放
要嘛就是懶得做細項評估 一次禁 等有人嚴重抗議再說
個人偏向後者 你覺得咧?
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按錯

By Agatha
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一開始的限制是不符合必要性的 這是我想說的

By Christine
at 2011-05-25T23:36
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而不是隨便販夫走卒都可以四處推銷各種魚藥

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同處理呢

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看政府怎麼推定就怎麼走囉~

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我們需要合理的管道取得藥物
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如果巷口雜貨店婆婆推銷小孩子把感冒糖漿當飲料喝
你覺得可行嗎?

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至於我覺得要去哪裡買藥? 透過獸醫師啊!

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而不是回到隨便一個人都能四處兜售藥品的年代

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狗有寄生蟲用要需不需要經過醫生?

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狗食檢驗標準可以跟人類食物來比
魚飼料也可以 就是用藥不行?

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掛號費 保險費 很貴耶!

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所以花錢經過醫生診斷 我個人覺得合情合理

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不會拿來當健康飲料販賣 魚藥呢?

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來說 可能沖馬桶會比較快一點。

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在小7就可以買~但是某W又說他覺得不算是藥....唉

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tellmetruth 政府沒有這樣規定吧?

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沒有這樣規定啊 所以我說我覺得啊

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自費可能要好幾百上千,W大 你幫你的孔雀花這錢嗎??

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還沒有看病的需求 如果有的話我一定PO文分享 放心~

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但是與其搞不清楚亂用藥 我還是花錢看醫生買專業

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狗跟人互動性高感情自然重 單價也高,魚呢??魚呢??

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花啊~ 我跟他們很有感情的

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搞不好他還沒養過魚

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不花這錢買藥,只是愛了更多的魚而已。

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