板風 - 貓

By Enid
at 2012-10-24T16:44
at 2012-10-24T16:44
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理性討論,請勿因看法理念不同就亂扣帽子。
關於推文禮不禮貌,除了真的很針對、情緒性的字眼,不然討論禮不禮貌真是公說公有理...
直接討論貓版存在的意義吧~
私以為不管是教育性、警惕性、閃光文等等,都需要存在版面上,沒有誰更值得存在。
原PO提到他認為有兩個因素導致貓版失去了多樣性、多元性聲音的文章,
一則因為其認為”版風”推文過於嚴厲,導致很多有過失的飼主,不敢PO文;
二則因為有過失的飼主PO文之後,文章被噓到XX,所以刪文,
導致很多前車之鑑的文章非常少。
這邊的邏輯很奇怪:
一、版風問題
1.在過失飼主文章下推文和樂融融、天下太平難道不會助長過失的產生嗎?
(因為我今天做錯了,但是大家都好好不會罵我,我做錯了好像也不會怎樣)
這好像比較像粉飾太平= ="
2.就算不助長過失的產生,真的有人PO文前會先搜尋我PO這篇文章會不會被罵,
如果已經有人被罵了,那很好,表示我真的做錯了,要改正;如果真的沒有,
那他還是會PO阿;所謂"不敢PO文"表示飼主本身已經知道自己是做錯了,
既然知道錯了,那沒有PO文也沒關係吧;如果真的知道錯了,但還願意PO文被罵,
做為前車之鑑,給他知錯能改的掌聲,文章依舊在。
不管是那種狀況,其實都與貓版的多樣性跟多元性無影響。
二、因為被噓到XX,所以刪文
1.不覺得板友需要為了飼主過失PO文被噓到刪文負責任耶...刪文是PO文者的舉動,
做錯事要PO文就要有勇氣承擔,去撻伐推文者並把刪文責任歸咎在推文者身上,
有點本末倒置吧。
2.為什麼不是要求過失飼主不要刪文,而是要求推文者一定要和顏悅色,
比較像粉飾太平again
回到原PO執著的點,私以為只因原PO覺得有些版友推文用字嚴厲、不客氣、
指責他人過失響到擲地有聲,原PO看不下去而已。
用"禮貌"來包裝說現實生活中面對面不會當面這樣指責別人、指責上司,
但不就因為現實生活中,人跟人都為了所謂的禮貌、面子、不想得罪人,
所以總是說些違心之論、口是心非、粉飾太平的話,
既然網路世界飼主願意PO文請益過失,為什麼不能直接了當的讓對方知道孰為是非
(很情緒性的指責不在此列)。
語言上愛的教育、鐵的紀律各人喜歡的不同,沒有是非對錯
(恣意謾罵就是錯的,這邊不需要原PO提出,自有版規處理);
但是對於飼養上的問題,有很顯著不合宜的地方,
要求所有人都要好言相勸、愛的教育就有點管寬了。
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關於推文禮不禮貌,除了真的很針對、情緒性的字眼,不然討論禮不禮貌真是公說公有理...
直接討論貓版存在的意義吧~
私以為不管是教育性、警惕性、閃光文等等,都需要存在版面上,沒有誰更值得存在。
原PO提到他認為有兩個因素導致貓版失去了多樣性、多元性聲音的文章,
一則因為其認為”版風”推文過於嚴厲,導致很多有過失的飼主,不敢PO文;
二則因為有過失的飼主PO文之後,文章被噓到XX,所以刪文,
導致很多前車之鑑的文章非常少。
這邊的邏輯很奇怪:
一、版風問題
1.在過失飼主文章下推文和樂融融、天下太平難道不會助長過失的產生嗎?
(因為我今天做錯了,但是大家都好好不會罵我,我做錯了好像也不會怎樣)
這好像比較像粉飾太平= ="
2.就算不助長過失的產生,真的有人PO文前會先搜尋我PO這篇文章會不會被罵,
如果已經有人被罵了,那很好,表示我真的做錯了,要改正;如果真的沒有,
那他還是會PO阿;所謂"不敢PO文"表示飼主本身已經知道自己是做錯了,
既然知道錯了,那沒有PO文也沒關係吧;如果真的知道錯了,但還願意PO文被罵,
做為前車之鑑,給他知錯能改的掌聲,文章依舊在。
不管是那種狀況,其實都與貓版的多樣性跟多元性無影響。
二、因為被噓到XX,所以刪文
1.不覺得板友需要為了飼主過失PO文被噓到刪文負責任耶...刪文是PO文者的舉動,
做錯事要PO文就要有勇氣承擔,去撻伐推文者並把刪文責任歸咎在推文者身上,
有點本末倒置吧。
2.為什麼不是要求過失飼主不要刪文,而是要求推文者一定要和顏悅色,
比較像粉飾太平again
回到原PO執著的點,私以為只因原PO覺得有些版友推文用字嚴厲、不客氣、
指責他人過失響到擲地有聲,原PO看不下去而已。
用"禮貌"來包裝說現實生活中面對面不會當面這樣指責別人、指責上司,
但不就因為現實生活中,人跟人都為了所謂的禮貌、面子、不想得罪人,
所以總是說些違心之論、口是心非、粉飾太平的話,
既然網路世界飼主願意PO文請益過失,為什麼不能直接了當的讓對方知道孰為是非
(很情緒性的指責不在此列)。
語言上愛的教育、鐵的紀律各人喜歡的不同,沒有是非對錯
(恣意謾罵就是錯的,這邊不需要原PO提出,自有版規處理);
但是對於飼養上的問題,有很顯著不合宜的地方,
要求所有人都要好言相勸、愛的教育就有點管寬了。
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